what do you really believe the percentage is for jw who are truly ignorant of what is going on behind closed doors of the w.t.
as opposed to those who actually know something is wrong & yet go along with it for whatever reason?
i have been asked for coffee by what i can only describe as one of the sweetest persons i have ever known & i cant even begin to conceive that she knows what is happening with the child abuse cases but then how do i know?
I don't have a percentage. But I think most believe that something is amiss, but they talk themselves out of it.
"Where else would I go?"
"This is the best way of life."
"The brothers are imperfect."
"Who else preaches from door to door?"
There are very few that possess that zeal that was so common many years ago. Most of the friends just seem to have a "wait and see" attitude.
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how very thought provoking this quote is, especially in the context of witness doctrine!.
"I would rather have Questions that I can't answer, instead of Answers that I can't question"
Take that quote and put it on every door of every kingdom hall and I guarantee that that would get most dubs to at least think. Even if it is just for a millisecond. That would have to generate something in most of them, right?
Right?
i had a secret conversation with a dyed in the wool jw recently.. they told me that they felt that the organisation now was a different religion to the 'good old days' when knorr was the boss.
the books were more interesting.
the zeal was there.
@ Vidiot:
"Overlapping generations are we... not this crude dictionary definition..." lol!!
a question for those still attending i guess but are all these new jw.telemuppet.org broadcasts advertised to the the rank and file or is it more of a background thing?.
i'm wondering because i just can't believe my 70 year old die-hard jw mum would ever see them if she wasn't sat down in front of a screen and someone clicked 'play' for her.
i really want her to see the wizards behind the curtain.
Are the Governing Body broadcasts promoted at Kingdom Hall meetings?
You better believe it!
i just had two female jws visit, one in their 30s and the other about 20. .
they invited me to their convention to learn about jesus, they said it is three days long but i don't need to attend every day and she highlighted one session at 11.15am where i could learn about jesus.. i said to her that i wouldn't be interested in attending the convention because i believed what a man called rutherford said about religion being a snare and a racket.
they wanted to know who this rutherford guy was and after explaining knew who i was talking about.
i was baptised on 1st sept 1990, 25years ago today.
it is still a date with deep meaning for me.
i never dedicated my life to serving any man or any organisation, this was my choice - as a grown adult - to serve my god through jesus christ.
What does your baptism mean to you now?
Nothing.
so i've noticed lately that my wife seems to think that in order to have a good marriage both people must be "spiritual".
she thinks being close as a family is all about family worship night, field service and praying together.
i know where these ideas are coming from but it is very hard to combat them.
@ JW_Rogue:
I am in the same boat as you. I have written some posts about my situation. Check them out if you like.
in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.
so what woke me up?
an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.
What woke you up?
Overlapping generations. You can't explain something that doesn't make sense.
geoffrey jackson left school at the age of 15 and began pioneering , he never attended a university ,never studied ancient greek ,hebrew or aramaic at any recognized teaching academy , he has no certificates or credentials / qualifications from any place of learning that is approved by a competent body of religious instruction .. and by his own words at the australian royal commission , under oath he stated that was his primary role as a translator of scripture into other languages .. a 15 year old drop out from school in australia is the chief/ prime translator of the bible for jehovah`s witnesses world wide in their many languages that they preach in .. it would be very interesting to see his report cards for those few years he did attend school .. is it just me , or does anybody else see that his qualifications don`t come up to scratch to be a translator of the old testament or the new testament scriptures , and be taken seriously as a translator of either , into any language.. if i am wrong anywhere in this post feel free to correct me .. smiddy.
@ smiddy:
A 15 year old drop out from school in Australia is the Chief/ Prime Translator of the Bible for Jehovah`s Witnesses
That is the funniest thing I read all day!
the local hall recently sold some property to the state for a road improvement project that is sorely needed.
they received about $20,000.
guess what?
The only resolution that I remember not passing was one to change the Sunday meeting time from 9:30am to 10:00am. Almost everybody was in favor of the 9:30am start. The elder was dumbfounded.
That was probably 15 years ago. Now that hall starts their Sunday meetings at 10:00am. Go figure.
